How Your 8 Diagrams Are Arranged
Before we dig in to dual palm arrangements, consider 2 different Bagua arrangements:
- Primal
- Temporal
The idea goes something like this:
The Primal Diagram
When you’re born, your elements are arranged in a Primal Fashion:

Yeah, so…
- Sky and Earth (top and bottom) are opposite one another.
- Fire’s opposite Water (left and right)…
- Clouds oppose Mountains (top left corner – bottom right)…
- Wind winds with Thunder (top right vs. bottom left).
That’s Awesome! And Natural.
Naturally, the idea from the Yi-Jing follows that, at birth, one possesses a natural, primal power of existence. And that, as a natural being, you possess:
- Sky: strength of creativity, justice, and duty
- Clouds: feelings and sensations of harmony and joy
- Fire: understanding and, simultaneously, spiritual courtesy
- Thunder: firms acts of kindness
- Wind: soft acts of tenderness
- Water: severe and ruthless tendencies
- Mountain: restraint and vital wisdom
- Earth: an ability to blend with (because you can hear with your soul) nature
Hmm… We both start and attempt to go back to this Primal Ideal. But we’re caught up in: Temporal Nature.
The Temporal Diagram is different.
The Temporal Diagram
It shows how we (and all living beings), as we age, grow, and, in particular, socialize, we rearrange our Primal Elements, and we head toward the Abyss.
If you’ve seen this diagram (at wikipedia.com), this is the Temporal Vision of Baguazhang:

See the difference?
- Fire over Earth: top to bottom (as if That’s our primary concern!).
- Thunder opposes Clouds (Left to Right: How does that work?)
- Wind goes against Sky (that’s a tough Opposition…)
- Earth against Mountain (shouldn’t They be friends?)
It’s a tough way to arrange life, and, apparently, it causes living beings to head toward death… why arrange such elements to oppose one another?
With such an arrangement it’s inevitable that one starts having a tough time:
- Fire silences our spirit.
- Wind rationalizes ideas.
- Thunder gives us aggression.
- Mountain makes defective our calm, original nature…
- Earth lets us follow because of weakness.
- Cloud reducing flexibility turns us weak and fragile.
- Sky offers stubborn, aggressive arrogance.
- Water turns what was once vitality into ridiculous (immature) passions.
What Now?
Study both the Primal and the Temporal Arrangements.
Study with legs, minds, and hands.
We’ll examine each arrangement closely, wondering what was Primal Living like? How do we accidentally create Temporal Living now?
Our attempt, however futile, then becomes: how do we shift from the Temporal Arrangement of Life, back to a Primal Arrangement of Living?
We’ll see…
4 responses to “How Your 8 Diagrams Are Arranged”
Share Your Thoughts
You must be logged in to post a comment.
See what others say...Comments RSS Feed
neat.
I have a very good book that is a translation of the i-ching. it has different names for the bagua that are also accurate translations, i thought you might enjoy these and you can apply them to your information above:
1=energy
2=space
3=shake
4=root
5=gorge
6=radiance
7=bound
8=open
i found that this arrangement makes more sense for given the internal transmissions of the 13 postures and how they related directly to the bagua.
Thanks josh.
What is your book called?
Does your list follow the Temporal list? If so, maybe the last two are flipped? Sky=open? Water=bound?
I like personal sensations regarding the palms, and I hope to guide people toward personal meanings… rather than adhering too closely to any single text.
I stripped the numbers out of my Bagua practice to connect more precisely to the Elements. “#1 Palm” has a different feeling for me than connecting my palm to “Sky.”
Original I-ching Oracle
the pure and complete texts with concordance
Translated by Ritsema and Sabbadini.
the numbers i gave are arbitrary, the magic square numerology and sacred geometry of the bagua is not something i am going to print or write about, but it is there.
left is up, right is down for the binary trigrams:
[Editor's note: I added the list for other readers for a reference to the article... a sky, b earth, c thunder, d wind, e water, f fire, g mountain, h cloud.]
my style basically requires you to understand the texts meanings, to understand the martial art, it is that strongly linked to the bagua and tao.
this book was a bit of an eye opener,
it showed me the 4 energies, which i did not understand:
lao yin, shao yang, lao yang, shao yin.
Lao means old, shao means young.
Thanks josh. Excellent associated meanings.
Stay tuned…
After Primal and Temporal Bagua explorations, UBagua.com will explore
In between, fundamental movement practices will come alive.